Trig Palin, Who’s Yo’ Mama - Sarah or Bristol
With the announcement that Bristol is indeed pregnant (posted at the bottom) this blog will not be posted this topic again.
Obama on Palin
Politico’s Carrie Budoff Brown reports: At a press avail in Monroe, Mich., Barack Obama on Palin: “Back off these kinds of stories.”
“I have said before and I will repeat again: People’s families are off limits,” Obama said. “And people’s children are especially off-limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin’s performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18 and how a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be a topic of our politics.”
On charges that his campaign has stoked the story via liberal blogs:
“I am offended by that statement. There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us,” he said. “Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I thought there was somebody in my campaign who was involved in something like that, they would be fired.”
Original Post
For the last few days, stories about Sarah Palin not being the mother of newborn Trig Palin, but actually, the grandmother, caused me to think. Why has the McCain campaign, Tom Palin and Sarah Palin herself, not addressed this very strong and growing discussion? It has been said that Palin’s 17 year old daughter, Bristol is really the mother of Trig. In 2008, with teenage pregnancy not new to anyone, why should this be such a Palin family secret? Could it be that it flies in the face of those “good old GOP family values?”
Evidence grows as questions mount on the internet. Is Sarah Palin lying about being the baby’s mother? Photos seems to back up the fact that Bristol, not Sarah, was pregnant. Even Sarah Palin’s public announcement at 7 months pregnant took her staff by surprise.
You have to wonder how hard the McCain staff vetted Sarah Palin. McCain met with her once and spoke to her 2 times in the history of their relationship. So, how much do the McCain people really know about her? Is Sarah Palin McCain’s Tom Eagleton? Eagleton lasted only 18 days after his veep tap.
Why does it matter?
- Sarah Palin is pro-life;
- Sarah Palin is an avid proponent of abstinence only education.
Let’s start with the Palin’s announcement of becoming a mom for the 5th time:
Anchorage Daily News, March 6, 2008
JUNEAU — Gov. Sarah Palin shocked and awed just about everybody around the Capitol on Wednesday when she announced she’s expecting her fifth child.
That the pregnancy is so advanced astonished all who heard the news. The governor, a runner who’s always been trim, simply doesn’t look pregnant.
Even close members of her staff said they only learned this week their boss was expecting.
But people just couldn’t believe the news.
“Really? No!” said Bethel state Rep. Mary Nelson, who is close to giving birth herself.
“It’s wonderful. She’s very well-disguised,” said Senate President Lyda Green, a mother of three who has sometimes sparred with Palin politically. “When I was five months pregnant, there was absolutely no question that I was with child.”
Moving on, vidoes and photos
In March 2008, Palin attended the Republican Govenors Convention. Trig PAlin was born April 18, 2008, and in the video interview below several things struck me as fishy; 1) look atr PAlin’s posture and crossed legs at late term pregnancy. Every pregnant women I know can not sit forward and hunched over nor can they cross their legs. Also in one of the vidoe Palin talks about motherhood (video #3), not once does she mention her pregnancy.
Palin in the Green Room: NEWSWEEK’s Karen Breslau shares a personal moment with the Alaska governor. Alaska governor Sarah Palin talks about the challenges of raising a family while in office at a NEWSWEEK forum on Women in Leadership in March
Palin should be 7 months pregnant in this photo.
Bristol has the pregnant bump
Here are a few more things to ponder
1) Palin’s daughter Bristol who attends an Anchorage high school, was reportedly absent for what would have been the last 4 -5 months of her mother’s pregnancy, claiming to be suffering from a prolonged case of mono.
2) Sarah Palin’s water broke while she was attending a conference in Texas. She then proceeded to give a 30-minute speech before taking an 11-12 hour flight home to Alaska to give birth.
3) All photos on the Alaska State Department’s official website that show Sarah Palin and her family have been taken down.
UPDATE!!! THIS POST WILL BE UPDATED AS NEW INFORMATION COMES IN.
Sunday August 31, 2008, 11:30p.m.
H/T The Red Pen at DailyKos
OK, there is a visibly-pregnant Sarah Palin talking with a CBS 11 (Dallas Juneau) reporter at the Governor’s meeting in Texas end of the Alaska legislative session. She clearly appears to be pregnant.
Unless someone has counter evidence, we can drop this crap now. Yes, there are still some interesting questions, such as why she flew to Dallas and back when she was this pregnant, and why the Alaska Airlines crew members insisted that she was not visibly pregnant on the flight. Nevertheless, until this photo is debunked, we look stupid pushing this rumor.
That is all.
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For The Red Pen “that is all” and maybe it is but I will keep looking into this until concrete evidence like a non doctored birth certificate or and affidavit from a doctor, nurse or hospital official who has not been bribed. For all I know Sarah Palin is wearing a “fat” suit or the piture was photoshoped. After all this photo only came to light on the web days after blogs began questioning.
Also there is still the unanswered question of Bristol’s 4-5 month absence from school for mononucleosis. With that said, someone else at the school or in their town should have been out for about the same time. So far nothing has been uncovered.
UPDATE!! September 1, 2008, 9:15 am
Blogger are searching Alaskan hospital birth records and nothing has been found yet. One hospital Mat-Su Reginoal Medical Center in Palmer Alaska has taken their site down. What’s up with that??
UPDATE!! September 1, 2008, 12noon
Today, The Anchorage Daily News has published to following:
Palins say teen daughter is pregnant
ST. PAUL, Minn. - Gov. Sarah Palin said today that her 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, is pregnant.
Palin, who arrived in St. Paul today to accept the Republican nomination for vice president, sent out a joint statement with her husband, Todd.
“Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned,” they said. “We’re proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support.
“Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi’s privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates,” the Palin family statement concluded.
The Daily News had asked Palin’s press secretary, Bill McAllister, over the weekend to address rumors that Bristol was pregnant.
“I don’t know. I have no evidence that Bristol’s pregnant,” he said on Saturday.
With the announcement that Bristol is indeed pregnant this blog and will not be posted this topic again. Changed my mind
CBC (Canadian Broadcast Company) did the following report during the RNC Convention
CBC raises questions about Trig Palin’s birth
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August 31st, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Hi. They cannot suppress the truth by taking down all the pictures from a government website. One way or another, the truth will come out.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:38 pm
This person met her right before she gave birth. You can’t see the stomach though.
http://www.polartrec.com/node/3944
August 31st, 2008 at 2:43 pm
mariamariacuchita:
The truth will come out. The GOP is great for scandals and very bad on the truth meter and cover ups. I wonder who order the pictures to be take down.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:48 pm
yarrrrrr:
Thanks for the link.
Eventually Sarah and her family are going to have to address this. Hard evidence will be needed not doctored birth certificates or paid off hospital staff. Sarah is in the big league now so she better get up to speed on addressing political fires.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Don’t think for a minute that I’m voting for this woman, but - just to play devil’s advocate - what are the chances of a 17-year-old having a child with Down Syndrome? The chances are 1 in 60 for a woman over 42, but something like 1 in 1000 for someone under 30…
On the other hand, didn’t she go into labor, *then* deliver a 30-minute speech in Texas before flying home for “induced labor”??
Shady, shady…
August 31st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
[...] BlueBloggin — which says it matters because “Sarah Palin is pro-life” and a “proponent of abstinence only education”. [...]
August 31st, 2008 at 4:36 pm
I was fascinated by this rumor. Was. After spending too much time than I’m willing to admit reading up on it I have concluded that Trig is indeed Sarah Palin’s child. I think the most significant evidence is this: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=117egpk&s=4 . This photo, which was taken on Friday, shows that Bristol looks like she is pregnant. Not only that, but more than 4 months pregnant. That would rule her out as the mother of Trig.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
hi hope it is true just because i think it would be just horrible to have someone like her (anti-choice, anti-gay, pro-gun, empty suit, in the white house - chilling thought that she could become president if something happened to mccain.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Your post makes me feel so dirty. What if it’s true? You’ve made a creepy intrusion into a family and exposed a 17 year old kid. What if you’re wrong? You’ve still made a creepy intrusion into a family.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Jones:
Are you suggesting that Bristol is currently pregnant? Well, that makes for another story since Sarah Palin is an avid proponent of abstinence.
I agree that this need further investigation and it does need to be addressed by Palin.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:25 pm
p s:
Sorry I made you feel that way. It is unfortunate that any family of a political figure gets put under the microscope. However, since Palin is anti-everything and does not believe in contraceptive education, her daughter and family unfortunately become involved.
Also the GOP family values that keep getting shoved down our throat need to start ringing a bell with their own party. Continued lies, scandals and cover ups have to come to a stop. If Palin is the maverick that the GOP has portrayed her to be then she would come clean.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:31 pm
ACW:
Women under the age of 35 are 85% more likely to a down syndrome baby. Palin is 44 which puts her in the 15% group.
Yes the speech in Texas is correct. Not only did she give the speech after her water broke but she then flew home to Alaska (11-12 hours) and went to a small town hospital 45 minutes from the airport. Two things there are major hospitals near the Alaskan airport where she landed and Texas has hospitals, we have had a few babies born here.
It shocks me that the PUMAs will vote for this women just to make their point. It has zero impact on them that Palin is against everything that they and the democratic party stands for.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:34 pm
nytexan,
Yes, that is the word in Pailn’s social circle in Alaska: Bristol is indeed currently pregnant. And the photo from Friday clearly supports that. The photo again: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=117egpk&s=4
August 31st, 2008 at 6:34 pm
girl:
The truth will come out. It shocks me that McCain would pick Palin and leave the country with an untested, inexperience hockey mom. Even her mother-in-law can;t figure out what Sarah brings to the ticket. So much for McCain’s “country first”
What a putz.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:21 pm
I think I may have been wrong.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Jones:
I love honesty. What’s the problem with the photo link you provided and your theory that Bristol is 4 months pregnant?
August 31st, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Because if a picture’s worth a thousand words, video can only be better, right? Both of these shortly before she announced she was 7 months along in early March…
Early February footage from Iditarod race
Mid-February footage from the Iron Dog race
(that’s her with the checkered flag)
I’m just saying, from my own experience with two pregnancies, and from my own experience of eleven winters in Alaska, she’s pretty darn nimble. I mean, you walk like a robot on snow/ice when you’re *not* preggers…
The thing that struck me most when glancing over a few photos of the family is that Palin’s eldest daughter does not appear to have smiled at all in the past year.
Regardless of whether it’s fact or rumor, who do you think dug it up first to put their spin on it? I’m wondering if the McCain campaign didn’t get the immediate reaction they were looking for and dug this up to discredit her…
(sorry to commandeer your blog; I promise I’m done on this topic for tonight)
August 31st, 2008 at 9:02 pm
ACW:
Thanks for the links and your comments. No you have not commandeered my blog.
I like your theory about the McCain people putting this out there to dump her from the ticket. Maybe McCain should have spent more than two visits with Palin before he offered her the job.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:24 pm
There are two main reasons why I think may be wrong:
1) Although I didn’t give it due consideration at the time, I now think that it is possible that Bristol may be carrying excess weight from her pregnancy and so is not currently pregnant. The fact that she has been out of sight and probably not very active and that some women do carry excess post-pregnancy weight for quite some time after giving birth means that carrying such weight even four months after giving birth is not as implausible as initially assumed.
2) The place of birth. If Sarah Palin is right, then she went to a lot of trouble (passing other hospitals along the way) to get to the hospital in the very small town where she supposedly had her baby delivered. Why would she? Perhaps because she didn’t. Perhaps it’s where Bristol decided to give birth. Why might she have done that? Well, it turns out there is teenager professing his love for Bristol Palin who lives in that town. His myspace page was recently made private.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Here’s what Sarah Palin said when asked about abortion during her 2006 gubernatorial race:
http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/elections/2006/governor/story/8372383p-8266781c.html
What if her own daughters were raped and became pregnant?
Palin replied: “I would choose life.”
Just so that we’re all clear. McCain’s choice for VP said on the record that should her daughter be raped, she would force her continue have the baby.
This is the type of depraved pro-life doctrine that makes most sane and civilized people cringe.
I applaud McCandy and her husband for helping her unwed, 16 year old high school daughter raise her baby. It’s pretty damned cool. But what pisses me off is the lie. The elaborate story that little Trig is McCandy’s baby. Is McCandy really so worried what the GOP country club people think? If so, she’s a damned hypocrite.
But then, aren’t all Republicans?
August 31st, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Christopher:
If this it true, I would have far more respect for Palin if she was truthful and upfront in the beginning. But then that’s not the GOP way.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Heavens, people!!! You need to be searching tmz.com or perezhilton.com!!! You want celebrity gossip and slander. Sheesh.
OK, her daughter has a belly. Many girls and women do. She’s not a model or anorexic actress. It does not look like she is pregnant. Get over it and go pick on people who want to be in the limelight, those idiots like Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears, Kim Whoever. To pick on this family is silly…and I am not voting for Mrs. Palin!
Christopher, all politicians are hypocrites. Not just the Republicans.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Possible correction about the hospital location: I’m getting conflicting information about where exactly the hospital is located in relation to Palin’s home and other nearby hospitals.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:17 pm
livin la vida sububia:
Celebrities bore me. Actually we are vetting Palin since McCain didn’t bother to do it. Vetting is far different than gossip.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Jones:
Check out an Alaskan blog named Mudflats, they are in my blogroll, you may get answers there. I will be adding more Alaskan bloggers as I find them.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Guys…we have to stop this nonsense please.
I just got off the phone with my half-sister who has lived in Wasilla Alaska most of her adult life. I’ve actually been to Wasilla and it is a very small town. Quite beautiful, btw.
I asked Fran if she knew the Palin’s and, of course, she did. It’s too small a town for the answer to be otherwise. Fran and her husband are not personal friends of the Palins but are involved with that snow race thingie that Palin’s husband runs every year.
Okay…for all the folks who are running this ugly story…Fran told me that she was in Palin’s presence many times when it was obvious that the woman was indeed preggers.
So, everybody take a deep breath…pause…and deal with the very real threat that this woman is to the democrats. Go at her on the very REAL problems that her political views cause for our country. Flinging dirt in this instance will backfire horribly for us and it wastes valuable time that we need to prepare for the election.
I know the Republicans have no moral problem with playing totally dirty politics. I’m not suggesting we be wimps. I’m saying, don’t fall for this one, gang. It’s a no-win proposition and stands to hurt two innocent children. Yes, someone who would abolish even birth control for religious reasons has no business running our country…BUT, if we let this fight fall back to abortion or gay/rights we play right into neocon hands AND we lose the chance to talk about the REAL problems facing this country AGAIN!
Neocons got Bush elected twice. This woman has them mad with joy and they are energized AGAIN.
Get focused …get busy… we’re in for a fight. I believe we have better answers to the great problems of our time. Get THAT message out. Not this waste of energy that will backfire on us and have neocons defending her EVEN more.
Look at it this way,…even if the story were true…imagine the spin they could put on it. It is a no-win.
Mick
August 31st, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Thanks nytexan, but I already know of that blog.
I expect this will be my last post tonight so I think it is well to give my overall assessment of all the evidence I’ve side, both pro and con. I think the evidence overall suggests that Trig is indeed Sarah’s child. But I also think the evidence also suggests that Bristol is currently pregnant.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Menopausal Mick:
I have no reason to doubt your sister. Thanks for getting information direct from Alaska out there. However, many Alaskan bloggers have had and are still asking the same question.
This is the only post that will be covered on this blog unless concrete evidence appears for a validation or correction.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Jones:
Thanks for your hard work. I am interested at getting at the truth. This blog has always posted completely researched and evidence backed post. So I am only willing to make this venturing once. I guess because McCain has made little if any attempt to vet Palin.
I will gladly make any corrections or provide further proof if it turns out to be true.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Jones…the picture you linked to of Bristol does not necessarily show she is currently pregnant….many of us continued to appear pregnant a few months after giving birth. I cringe looking at pictures of me holding my infant, while still looking pregnant.
Whatever the truth, it’s a very sad story for this young girl. She appears so unhappy. If this is her baby, what a horrible situation she has been put into.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:52 am
Menopausal Mick -
Interesting story. Your half-sister seems to be the only one on earth who knew McCandy was with child.
No one in the Governors office, who worked with McCandy 5 days a week, no one in the Alaska senate who saw McCandy on a regular basis, no other governors who attended a national conference just weeks before McCandy delivered, no one at the energy conference in Texas just hours before she allegedly gave birth to Trig, and no one on the flight back to Juneau following the energy conference.
Shuck, even Mat-Su Hospital has no record of a “Trig Palin” being born in April, 2008. There were 26 births recorded and reported in Mat-Su’s on-line baby registry and none of them were named “Trig Palin.” McCandy said this was the hospital she used, so maybe she was confused?
September 1st, 2008 at 5:12 am
How come the Mat Su Regional Medical Center’s web site is down right now??? The cover up is certainly growing and is only a matter of time before the hypocritical Republican juggernaut, religous fanatics, and outright liars start to go down. There is no better way I would see the Republicans fall flat on their face than for them to be done in by a topic that runs counter to their fanatical beliefs.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:38 am
Les,
Sources tell me Mat-Su has had more than 120,000 hits in the past 36 hours researching their on-line birth registry.
So, either they crashed, or, they’re quickly adding the name “Trig Palin” on April 18, 2008, as instructed by the RNC and the governor’s office.
September 1st, 2008 at 8:16 am
Les:
Thanks for info. I checked out the hospital and the URL takes you to a blank page. As for Menopausal Mick his sister is the only one in Alaska who has said a word on behalf of Palin. Heck Palin’s own staff who saw her everyday didn’t even know she was pregnant.
I will continue to update this post. Bloggers will get to the bottom of this.
September 1st, 2008 at 8:36 am
@ Jones, point (2):
This is what raised a red flag for me. I remembered my parents driving from the valley to Wasilla every other weekend when I was a kid, and - though online maps show 59 minutes’ travel - they always allowed at least an hour and a half, particularly in winter or break-up season (March/April). At that point in time, the highway we traveled was one lane each direction, so if you were in a rush (i.e., in labor), it could be as dangerous as, say, boarding an airplane in labor. You never really knew when you’d reach your destination. *However*, I see that the Glenn Highway has since been expanded into a ‘freeway’, presumably with more than one lane each way.
@nytexan:
I’ve already alluded to the fact I’m not supporting McCain, no matter who his veep is. That being said, I’m reluctant to aid in the spin of this topic, not knowing who started it. IMHO, the best thing for *McCain’s campaign* right now would be for Palin to be removed as veep - regardless of what’s best for this country or for women breaking through the glass ceiling - which is precisely why I’d like to see her stay exactly where she is until late October. I view politics like a game of poker, and really hate to show my hand until absolutely necessary, because it gives the competitor’s side a chance to react and adjust circumstances to be in his favor. I think all good Democrats should pat McCain on the back and publicly say “Good choice there, bub” and snicker all the way to the polls; it appears he’s grasping at straws by choosing her, relatively sight unseen, for veep (kinda makes him seem sexist, if you ask me - ‘one woman is as good as another’). We’re not trying to sway Republicans, but the moderates. I’m moving on from this topic to points that show she’s anything but moderate.
September 1st, 2008 at 8:44 am
Please be advised that all information coming from Wasilla/Palmer area, Bristol Palin appears to be very pregnant now. I am a former Wasilla resident and have been following Sarah’s rise for years. Let’s focus on this appearant fact and Sarah’s abuse of power while in office.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:27 am
mike:
Thanks for the update. This post has draw hundreds of readers for whatever reason. Could be everyone is sick of GOP hypocrisy. This is why the post will be updated as information arrives. Every single veep in vetted and apparently this women was not. The McCain staff should have asked questions from the beginning.
Yes I am following the abuse of power story and have posted on the possible impeachment of Palin as governor.
All topics on Sarah Palin will be focused on she is an unknown playing in the big league now.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:43 am
I was right: Bristol Palin is pregnant and Trig is Sarah’s Palin’s son: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/palin-confirms-daughters-pregnancy-915378.html
September 1st, 2008 at 10:48 am
This rumor has been falsified and the entire post should be deleted out of respect for the family it libels. Sarah Palin has just announced that her daughter Bristol is five months pregnant, making it impossible that Bristol could have given birth to five-month-old Trig.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:58 am
Jones:
Yes, I have just read an article at the Anchorage paper and the Palin’s released a statement about Bristol.
My post will be updated.
September 1st, 2008 at 11:01 am
DAILY KOS ARE SCUM BAGS !!!
All you small minded people who are crucifying Governor Palin over the question of her fifth child, are just fueling a vicious smear campaign. Besides, if you want to exhibit your holier-than-thou attitude … why don’t you get even more angry at Obama, Michelle, and their children, for spending 20 years in an anti-American racist church, as well as associations with Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers, Rezko, etc.. These facts are much more relevant to the next administration, than the possibility of a loving mother taking the heat to protect her child and grandchild.
September 1st, 2008 at 11:13 am
Gina:
McCain can’t be bothered vetting her so the public will. GOP hypocrisy is what’s pushing this. Bringing Obama into this shows how myopic your views are when you spin very old talking point.
If you bothered to look at other post on this blog you would read that Gov. Palin is under investigation and could be impeached in Alaska.
September 1st, 2008 at 11:19 am
Gina:
I forgot to add this quote from the Anchorage Daily News published August 31, 2008. Apparently Alaskans have been asking the same question for several months.
“OK - the Palin baby speculation is inescapable at this point. It’s a version of a rumor - long simmering in Alaska — that Palin’s daughter Bristol was pregnant and the governor somehow covered it up by pretending to have the baby (Trig) herself.”
September 1st, 2008 at 11:27 am
Almost two years ago, my 17 year old great niece and her 19 year old half sister gave birth to Downs Syndrome children. There is no history of Downs on either family line. One of these children required hear surgery, both required a feeding tube. The day-to-day physical therapy and care is intense. The 19 year old had previously had a child taken away from her by the state. The Downs baby was also taken away due to the needs of the child and her inability to care for her. My niece immediately became pregant again.
September 1st, 2008 at 11:35 am
So the story has legs…it will be really interesting to see how the evangelicals respond to the teenage pregnancy, and how the average woman voter responds to the insistence that abstinence is the only education that should be offered young girls. Maybe if McCain had met her more than once before the position was offered, he could have avoided this.
September 1st, 2008 at 11:36 am
“One Rule
I encourage comments from all sides. I will not edit any comments. They post as you have written them. However, your comments will be deleted for the following reason only: I will not tolerate racism on any level especially the use of the “N” word.”
Then why do you tolerate BHO’s affiliation to a racist Chicago church, for 20 years, that spewed hate and blatant lies, they said the white man created AIDS(who was it Karl Rove and Rush Limbaugh in the lab, cue the sinister laughter.)
If you would take the time to read some of Obama’s writings for the Chicago Defender in Hyde Park. I would suggest anyone who is white read these. It gives you a completely different view of Obama as nothing close to a post partisan, beyong race politician. He does not care about white middle class America, check that, he desperately needs your vote but will do nothing to help you once he receives it.
I only stumbled here from a Google search on the erroneous pregnancy report of Trig Palin. Wow they should have let this go a little longer just to show how hateful and lie spreading machine the left can be. I am sure Sarah Palin and her husband are devastated and at least their public comments are no like the whore Dakota Cody who wrote, somewhat ironically, Juno, which in my view was a celebration of teen pregnancy.
HRC would have beat us in a landslide, but BHO is in trouble. Who cares about the Alaska investigation? Nobody who would vote for the Republican ticket. I personally want someone in power who would risk a career hit to protect her father from violence(ex brother in law threatened to kill him 3 times if he helped retain a lawyer) and look out for her sister who obviously has no taste in men.
Good luck to you guys in November, I can’t wait for the RNC to roll out the Rev Wright hate of white middle class America campaign in all the battleground states.
September 1st, 2008 at 11:42 am
I just want to say that the idea that Rev. Wright has ever said anything racist that has come to public light is absurd. I’ve read volumes about it, and nowhere can I find an even remotely plausible explanation of how anything he’s said is racist. The Obama campaign needs to take a stand on this if it ever becomes an issue again.
September 1st, 2008 at 11:49 am
When you say “God Damn America”, repeatedly, you are spreading a divisive and hateful tone, and when you sit there for 20 years you agree.
Sorry, BHO, not everyone puts their country first.
Don’t worry we will let 70 year old white grandmas in the battleground states determine if they interpret The great Reverend as being hateful. More importantly, BHO voted 100% of the Time with Emil Jones. I am from Chicago so I have the “priviledge” of reading about Rezko all the time, they love bringing him up in the Sun Times, to me his story is insignificant compared with other very questionable BHO affiliations.
There actually should be a plausible explanation how Jones’ nose did not grow while posting that comment.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:04 pm
OK, Dan. Quote what Rev. Wright said that is racist and explain precisely why it is racist. That is a challenge.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Dan:
Thanks for post my “one Rule” however, can you please name the comment you are referring to. Also this post nor the comments except for “Gina” brought up Obama.
If you want to read posts about Obama or Clinton or Rev. Wright please check the archives. This thread is about Sarah Palin
Now getting back to the topic at hand; with the announcement that Bristol is pregnant this is a non issues at this blog and will not be posted on again.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:40 pm
that preggo pic is photoshopped.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CTjA6xkWz0
September 1st, 2008 at 1:44 pm
What a hateful and slanderous website. Think of all the evil which you attribute to the GOP. You are at least as bad, for the mean-spirited character killing you’re doing here. Shame on you.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Who is the mother of Trig?
She wasn’t pregnant. How long does it
take to get pregnant for the second time?
This woman is crazy. Her daughter is
a baby machine just like her mother.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:08 pm
You failed to mention that the Guv was back at work THREE DAYS after giving birth to Trig.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:08 pm
People… Do the math. Bristol is 5 months pregnant. Trig is 4 months old.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:09 pm
“You failed to mention that the Guv was back at work THREE DAYS after giving birth to Trig.”
So what. My wife was up getting coffee for the nurses within 30 minutes of having our oldest.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Grow up, people. This can happen to any family. They are exhibiting good judgment as well, here. I know some families that have disowned their daughters when this happened. At least the Palins are giving her their support.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:13 pm
There was prima facie evidence suggesting that Trig may not be Sarah’s Palin’s child, but her grandchild. That was evidence was always inconclusive. And always defeasible, were new information to come to light. New information has now come to light, and the vast majority of liberals are dropping the idea. As Lis Angus here makes clear, there will be at least a few exceptions. But these are exceptions. In short, this whole episode is in no way comparable to the months-long campaign of slander that Obama has endured at the hands of the right, even as the slanders have been decisively refuted.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:27 pm
ALL:
Let’s move on. This is a non issues.
FOR ANYONE WHO DID READ THE TOP OF THIS POST
With the announcement that Bristol is indeed pregnant (posted at the bottom) this blog will not be posted this topic again.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Tit for tat righties.
Obama without flag lapel pin = lack of patriotism
Palin without burgeoning belly = lack of pregnancy
Well, in light of all the crap flung at Obama for not wearing a flag pin, for listening to a crazy preacher, for having a funny name, for growing up in Hawaii, for being black,….. etc, etc. I want to see a birth certificate, authentic birth certificate indicating who is the mother of Trig Palin. Why does this Palin woman get a pass from the vetting process. It is ugly and it will only get uglier. For the reps, jerimiah wright was “right” on one thing, the chickens have come home to roost. Now let’s see who’s been sitting on those eggs.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:50 pm
That girl is not pregnant…it’s all a cover up to quiet these rumors that they have yet to address…they’ll probably say she miscarried to shore up sympathy votes…the repugs are the lowest of the low so I don’t put anything past them…
September 1st, 2008 at 2:58 pm
hmm, I still think that it is possible that Trig is Bristol’s child. There are siblings that are less than a year apart. It almost makes weird sense that a teenage girl would think that she was immune from pregnancy so close to giving birth.
the stories floating around by msm is that bristol is 4/5 months pregmant. what if she is only 3 or 3.5?
September 1st, 2008 at 3:16 pm
John McCain’s life is a master stroke of mystery and adversity.Granting that he knows this issue of pregnancy of Sarah Palin as his vp’s running mate, it points out vital issues facing the country on teen age pregnancy and down syndrome, and ends on the sanctity of life.
Granting arguendo, that Sarah Palin is pretending to be the mother of Trig who is now 4 months old(she gave birth last April)in fact and in truth Bristol who is the real mother, its quite possible that she could be pregnant four months after giving birth? The best evidence as to the delivery pf Trig is with hospital records for the delivery or civil registry for registration of births, in case the delivery was done in the house and assisted by health care providers and/or by experienced provider in the village.
For me, I don’t care! Sarah and Bristols pregnancy will not pay my rent neither their names appear on my pay check!
So what if she is the vice-president with that issue surrounding her person. At least, they are clean in bringing
honor and integrity in the White House. No seeds sexual jobs being sown in the carpet in the Oval Office.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:25 pm
How do we know she is 5 months? She could be 3 months and 25 days - it’s happened before.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Karl:
It seems Bristol is 3-4 months pregnant again. When Sarah
announced last March that she was pregnant and gave birth on after her speaking engagement in Texas, Bristol was out of school for almost 5 months on reason of mono infection.
However, this is part of the mystery that will work out in favor of the McCain candidacy. among the conservatives, pregnancy as a sign of preserving life rather than abortion is a high-issue.
This election is so closed. McCain is aiming to win 1 to 2 percent over Barack in highly rural villages. In their knock on the door campaign, they will spread this issue against Obama
as part of his black propaganda campaign against the pentecostal Sarah Palin.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:26 pm
You hateful blue devils! Don’t you know that when republicans lie it is ALWAYS justified. It’s for your own good that the republicans tell you what you need to know. Sarah Palin should be canonized for her Lady Madonna personna. (can’t you just hear Paul McCartney singing in the background?). This whole story is full of more holes than swiss cheese. She had to know that there would be questions about her life and her background. But this whole soap opera of a family life issue pales in comparison to the allegations that she abused her power as governor to fire someone who didnt’ fire her nasty brother in law. The bottom line, if found to be true, indicates she’s just Dick Cheney in a dress.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:47 pm
I think Mark Cherry (screenwriter) is conjuring this all up! It sounds JUST like “Desperate Housewives” ….Same plot as last year’s show with Bree!
September 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Well, as Sarah Palin has just come to the attention of the lower 48, I’m looking for info where ever I can. Here’s what is concerning me — she just isn’t qualified and she’s putting herself before her family and state. Mitt Romeny, Mike Huckabee, Elizabeth Dole –those are qualified people. I won’t vote for McCain, no matter whom he chose but my God, couldn’t he have at least chosen someone who could take over if something happens to him? Hockey Mom with a journalism degree just doesn’t cut it. If she truly cared, she would have turned McCain down. This puts Bristol right in the limelight. Just an aside, if Trig is baby #5, the labor would have been short and sweet and born in Tx. Former teenage mom (now 40), still married to the Dad and voting Obama. Bristol, hang in there.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
I went to Mat-Su Regional Website for the nursery. There are two names Isaiah Travis and
Kayden Lexus on April/18/2008. No Trig or Palin on the date. What gives? The link to the registry
http://www.matsuregional.com/nursery/nursery_calendar.php?month=06&year=2008
September 1st, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Author: Frank Magno
Comment:
Karl:
It seems Bristol is 3-4 months pregnant again. When Sarah
announced last March that she was pregnant and gave birth on after her speaking
engagement in Texas, Bristol was out of school for almost 5 months on reason of
mono infection.
However, this is part of the mystery that will work out in favor of the McCain
candidacy. among the conservatives, pregnancy as a sign of preserving life
rather than abortion is a high-issue.
This election is so closed. McCain is aiming to win 1 to 2 percent over Barack
in highly rural villages. In their knock on the door campaign, they will spread
this issue against Obama
as part of his black propaganda campaign against the pentecostal Sarah Palin.
Frank Mango,
You’ve got to be kidding me. There is no doubt that Senator McCain probably knew about “the pregnancy”. Whether it was the pseudo-Sarah pregnancy, or the Bristol pregnancy. To use either one as vote bait is just reprehensible. There is no “black propaganda campaign” on the part of Obama and those of you who use this type of rhetoric seem to conveniently forget that Obama’s mother was white. He grew up in a decidedly “blended” family and I believe that is why he works so hard to close the divisions of most kinds in our country. Obama does not maintain that women should have abortions, but agrees with most of the country that women should have a choice. It’s just as easy to say that Sarah, or Bristol for that matter, “chose” life, in which case, were exercising their right to choose. No one thinks abortion is a good thing, and everyone hopes that they are never put in the position to have to make that choice, but to criminalize abortion for any reason, even in the cases where the life of the mother is in jeopardy, IS choosing “life”. this brings us full circle back to the abstinence only debate. Perhaps preparation for adolescent biological urges and sexuality would’ve prevented Bristol’s unexpected pregnancy instead of speaking in tongues and keeping your fingers crossed. Please tell me that the majority of the country is just not that myopic.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:10 pm
I am pro-life. Gee, who isn’t pro-life. But I’m also pro-choice. I was a teenage Mom and even though Dad and I had already planned to get married, it was still so very hard. Ugh, sorry for any typos. New computer, new keyboard. Stiff keys. Back on topic - It serioulsy looks like no vetting was done on Sarah Palin. I do not see, how in a million years, that this could work to McCain’s advantage. Old DWI on hubby, hey it happens, sadly. It appears it never happened again and no one was hurt. But just her lack of experience and then the other issues of the bridge flip-flop and troopergate shows that McCain just picked any female. Was Elizabeth Dole not available? The thought of Sarah Palin being 2nd in charge scares me.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:16 pm
OK Everyone:
If you want to read where Palin stands on the issues, I have posted it.
While I understand there are many questions unanswered and what seem to be lies surrounding the whole thing we need to move on. We need to focus and get off this or it will blow up and McCain will win through a sympathy vote for Palin!
September 1st, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Interesting how all of those Family Values folks love to preach out of the old testament when it supports their hatred, but when it’s one of their own, it’s a whole nother thing all together.The Bible says that fornication or immorality is an abomination, and considered as “filthy” before God (Revelation 17:4).
In order to avoid immorality, the Bible says that God created marriage (1 Corinthians 7:1-2). In Hebrews 13:4, the Bible says, “Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.” This is a reality.
The Bible says that if a Christian is sexually immoral, other Christians should separate their company and fellowship from him/her (1 Corinthians 5:9-11).
And don’t try to explain this all away by saying Jesus died for our sins so it is OKAY. These books came AFTER Jesus.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:24 pm
I think Eliot Spitzer is the father of Trig, and Bristol is indeed the mother.
Oh Eliot.
September 1st, 2008 at 8:13 pm
I predict that Palin will leave the ticket, moaning that her family’s privacy has been invaded and blaming liberals who “outed” the family secrets. McMoron will fume and have to choose another running mate. (He likes younger woman so he’ll be furious with the libs, too, for costing him Palin.)
Oh well, maybe Bristol will ask him to be the godfather…
September 1st, 2008 at 8:22 pm
The Comment below got lost in cyberspace but was in the e-mail so out of respect for the commenter I am posting it.
Submitted by:Anonymous
This rumor has been falsified and the entire post should be deleted out of respect for the family it libels. Sarah Palin has just announced that her daughter Bristol is five months pregnant, making it impossible that Bristol could have given birth to five-month-old Trig.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:48 pm
http://deals.families.com/domestic-infant-down-syndrome-adoptionwhere-to-start,t113282
im just sayin’…
September 1st, 2008 at 11:23 pm
A simple DNA test would solve all of the doubts. Then we would all know for sure who the parents are.
September 1st, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Why not settle the whole question with a simple DNA test, done by an independent lab? Then the mystery will be solved and it will be clear whether this has been a cover-up or not.
September 2nd, 2008 at 5:14 am
Who cares! DNA testing? What is this some day time tv show where the mother doesn’t know who the father is? You people must all have absolutley nothing else to do with your lives than point fingers and make wild allegations against people you have no clue about. Yet your going to vote for a guy who keeps talking about change and the only change would be the name of the President because he hasn’t once mentioned one change that he want’s to make that is realand not make believe! For the record I’m not a Mcain fan but think it’s so childish to say what you have about the whole Palin make believe story. I’d like to write more but I have a job to go to right after I dump out my used oil in the back yard from my gasoline propelled vehicle that gets 15 mile to the gallon.
September 2nd, 2008 at 8:21 am
[...] Blue Bloggin: Trig Palin, Who’s Yo’ Mama, Sarah or Bristol? [...]
September 2nd, 2008 at 9:33 am
I can’t believe people are actually suggesting to shut down any debate on this one.
Sarah has come out and said they have been hiding the fact Bristol is 5 months pregnant and only came out after bloggers for MONTHS have been claiming Bristols the mommy so it’s impossible for her to have had Trig. Well that’s sorted then isn’t it, please move along people nothing to see here… she said it now so it must be true.
In other news Bush says he knows there is WMD’s in Iraq(don’t question this), Bill Clinton says he never had sexual relations with Monica(don’t question it!) and Richard Nixon never used the CIA to investigate the Democrat Party(hey can everyone PLEASE PLEASE stop questioning!)
Christ has the public really been dumbed down to a lot of unquestioning serfs? I question everything and this one has the BS detector going off the scales.
September 2nd, 2008 at 9:36 am
“Why not solve the whole thing with DNA testing by an independent lab?”
Uhhh, we couldn’t even get an independent study of 9/11, and McCain is gonna want to cover this up as much as Bush, Rove, and Cheney wanted to cover up what really took place on that horrid day.
GOP better get ready to donate a lot to McMCain.Palin, they are gonna need the quick cash infusion to hush up everybody in Wasilla!
September 2nd, 2008 at 12:37 pm
You guys are forgetting 2 things here:
(1) When pregnant for a second time, you tend to show faster then the first. Which means Bristol could be 4 months pregnant and look 5.
(2) All of the family pictures are missing from the governors website. The ones left on there she does not look pregnant. The Lt. Gov has more pictures then she does, very interesting.
Look, I am not sure what is real here and what isn’t. I am sure that someone knows and if people do enough digging, someone always makes a mistake. Don’t you think one of the kids from her high school would leak this information to the press? I am sure she has an enemy here or there.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Dear friends,
So many people have asked me about what I know about Sarah Palin in the
last 2 days that I decided to write something up . . .
Basically, Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton have only 2 things in
common: their gender and their good looks.
You have my permission to forward this to your friends/email contacts
with my name and email address attached, but please do not post it on
any websites, as there are too many kooks out there . . .
Thanks,
ABOUT SARAH PALIN
I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992.
Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a
first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her
father was my child’s favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a
first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more
City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the
residents of the city.
She is enormously popular; in every way she’s like the most popular
girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and
won’t vote for her can’t quit smiling when talking about her because
she is a “babe”.
It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She
kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents
for seven months.
She is “pro-life”. She recently gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby.
There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby.
She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.
She is savvy. She doesn’t take positions; she just “puts things out
there” and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.
Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a
champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin’s kind of job is highly
sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his
work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or
so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their
major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything
like that of native Alaskans.
Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.
She’s smart.
Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000
(at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about
670,000 residents.
During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running
this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been
pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had
gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had
given rise to a recall campaign.
Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6
years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over
33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the
City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation
(1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a
regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she
promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they
benefited residents.
The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration
weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed
money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it
with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage
the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she sa